I was somewhat pleased to read this post because many things about credit have bothered me for ages.
Money is something I've always found fairly perplexing beyond a certain level of abstraction.
I understand money to the extent that I am capable of saving it, exchanging it for tangible goods and services, and donating it. I can pay bills on time (I'm actually practically OCD about that). Etc.
However, my sense of coherence drops off sharply the further I move away from the concept of trading objects or physical currency for other objects.
I didn't even have a credit card until I was 25, and I only got one then because I was tired of having to pay extra deposits on utilities, etc., due to "lack of a credit history".
I'd actually thought that I was doing well by not cultivating debt, and was fairly shocked to discover that instead of being considered financially responsible by the economy-at-large, I was essentially considered an economic nonperson.
One lady I turned in a credit application to was completely flabbergasted at the fact that I had no history at my age, and actually asked me how long I'd been in the country!
And the only reason I've ever used a credit card, since getting one, is for the sake of "building credit".
That is, having charged and paid back a number of credit card purchases, I no longer have Pacific Gas & Electric charging me an extra $150 (or thereabouts) if I move to a new dwelling on the basis that they don't know what kind of consumer I am.
I do not use credit cards as if they were “money”. Basically the only way I can wrap my mind around credit in the first place is to treat credit cards exactly like debit cards – that is, as “windows” into the actual money I actually have saved.
Whether due to neurology, upbringing, or a combination thereof, I simply find credit impossible to believe in. It all really just seems like a bunch of handwaving and pretending to me, and I don't really see the use of it.
I use it only grudgingly, and only barely. I've memorized the mechanical motions of using the card, of punching the numbers in, of writing the check and mailing it when the bill comes – but I might as well be cargo-culting the whole thing.
The article I linked above, entitled Mind Your Business, astutely notes that:
Due to the extreme importance of credit scores, Americans are strongly pressured to use credit cards and build up credit, at the cost of our privacy. Without a credit score, it’s very difficult to buy a house or car, and companies charge far more for insurance. Personal credit checks are now standard for renting apartments, buying houses and many other basic needs.
It's just nice to see this being corroborated by someone else, because most of the time I've found myself totally perplexed by some credit-related thing, I get responses like, “Well, that's just the way the system works, and if you don't play by it you will be the one losing out”.
I have to admit, though, the privacy angle hadn't really even occurred to me until I read the Philosecurity post.
I tend to be really naïve about that sort of thing anyway, which is something I am always fighting with. I was born totally unselfconscious (as in, as a child it was all my parents could do to keep me from running around and doing cartwheels with my underpants in full view) and it took me a while to learn what "privacy" meant in the first place, and even longer to grok that I had a right to it.
I've since learned a bit about how to recognize potentially dangerous and/or exploitative situations (my father helped me a lot with this growing up, and I also acquired some useful pattern-recognition algorithms via reading about scams, cults, and multilevel marketing), but I still don't always stop to consider how and where my privacy and personal data may be at risk. My debit card number got stolen a few years ago (resulting in a $1000+ Amazon purchase that I didn't make and ended up having to dispute with a pile of extremely irritating paperwork) and I don't know how that happened, but it was definitely a wake-up call and I subsequently rearranged how I was doing things.
So now I am both glad I've minimized my use of credit so far and wondering how I can avoid being at further risk in that regard. (And frankly I feel sometimes like the sheer onslaught of junk mail and “targeted advertising” I get ought to be considered criminally obnoxious.)
I really do hope not very many people end up actually hurt by the recession, but at the same time, I have to wonder if there's perhaps some hope that things will swing a bit back toward the concrete.
The degree to which credit is considered crucial for many important aspects of citizenship is ridiculous, not to mention the fact that it creates a number of accessibility barriers (especially for us cognitively-concrete folks) in addition to putting people's vulnerable data at great risk.
Disclaimer: This post is not meant to suggest moral superiority on my part (I don't think I'm "better than" people who use credit cards frequently, etc.). It's just about different ways of looking at things and operating, and how these different ways can intersect with cultural structures and expectations in interesting ways.
Frankly while I realize some of what I've been able to do in terms of avoiding credit-related tomfoolery have been due to privilege of various kinds, I am also fairly convinced that if I'd been in a position during college to "figure out credit or starve", I'd probably have ended up starving. So I am not looking down on poorer people whose credit is maxed out just from trying to survive -- I am saying that for some of us, the whole system on which America seems to have constructed an economy is largely inaccessible no matter where we are socio-economically to begin with.
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Being non-American (Swedish), I'm also very much confused and flabbergasted by the high credit card usage in the states - which is also starting to be adopted here, only to a lesser degree.
Your concluding example with a starving family having to rely on credit to put food on the table is constructive (even though relying on credit would of course only make things even harder for the family over time), but for anyone else I can't really see the point of credit at all. Assuming someone values higher rates of consumption of goods and services, wouldn't first saving that money and then purchasing those goods always give you more stuff in the end, compared to continually paying out steep interest on your ever-renewed debts?
The only thing I can see going for credit cards is instant satisfaction as compared to actually having to save/plan for purchases, which might actually prevent you from some of the more impulsive and less necessary ones. I'd consider that a good thing, but that might make me unusual..
Oh, and your link to philosecurity is broken.
Henrik said:
Being non-American (Swedish), I'm also very much confused and flabbergasted by the high credit card usage in the states - which is also starting to be adopted here, only to a lesser degree.
Oh wow interesting. I am glad you commented because I've been curious as to whether this is mainly an American thing or not. I can only really write about America because that's where I've lived my whole life, but it is not lost on me that we aren't the whole world here. In any case I think that the way America has been obsessed with credit (and "imaginary money" in general) is a really unstable proposition over the long term. Eventually you lose track of what exactly is being valued in the first place. I really hope Sweden is able to avoid learning that the hard way...
Your concluding example with a starving family having to rely on credit to put food on the table is constructive (even though relying on credit would of course only make things even harder for the family over time), but for anyone else I can't really see the point of credit at all.
Me neither.
Assuming someone values higher rates of consumption of goods and services, wouldn't first saving that money and then purchasing those goods always give you more stuff in the end, compared to continually paying out steep interest on your ever-renewed debts?
That's what I would think...
The only thing I can see going for credit cards is instant satisfaction as compared to actually having to save/plan for purchases, which might actually prevent you from some of the more impulsive and less necessary ones. I'd consider that a good thing, but that might make me unusual..
Well, there's instant satisfaction and there's also the fact that many humans seem to be terribly worried about status. I started noticing this way back in elementary school and was utterly mystified by it. Children in my classes would actually boast about how much their shoes cost, and would go around asking other kids how much theirs cost, and then mocking them if they were too "cheap", or purchased at "unfashionable" stores, or lacked the proper brand logos, etc. Even though it was their parents buying the stuff for them, they seemed to take some kind of weird pride in having what was trendy and expensive.
My family was not rich but we weren't really poor either -- we were pretty much middle-class average for the majority of my growing-up years. But I nevertheless got called "poor" as if it were an insult because I did not dress in trendy fashions or wear "cool" brands, and because when something like a backpack ripped or broke I would generally end up fixing it with duct tape or something rather than going out and getting a new one right away. And I imagine these kids had to have gotten those attitudes from somewhere, most likely their own parents.
As I've become an adult myself, I've seen a fair bit less of the kind of overt disdain for the non-trendy but there are still a lot of more subtle pressures at work. E.g., a lot of workplaces have dress codes that entail a person's having a whole wardrobe separate from what they'd normally wear around the house and out and about. Some places, supposedly, won't even promote you no matter how good a job you do if you don't dress "at least as well" as your boss (this is all ridiculous and weird to me, I don't understand it, I'm just relating things I've heard/read).
Furthermore in a lot of regions here in the US, there's a lot of stigma associated with doing certain things even when it is very practical and economically feasible to do so. E.g., riding the bus. If you don't drive your "own" car, you are seen as somewhat suspect, unless you happen to live in a very metropolitan area (like San Francisco or New York City). Even as a college student I got a lot of pressure from various people to get a driver's license, one of the reasons for this pressure being given as the idea that riding the bus was somehow "beneath" me, which just seemed totally ridiculous. (More on my non-driver status here).
Basically my point here is that yes, some people might be practicing impulse buying a lot, but I would actually suspect that the major reason people use credit frequently is to live in the way they think is expected of them, even when it isn't really practical.
Being autistic I've had to find nonstandard ways of doing things in a lot of contexts, and I was also raised in a household which emphasized practicality and fixing things other than status-signaling and buying things, so from where I sit, common American spending habits (not to mention "corporate culture") look really bizarre to me.
Oh, and your link to philosecurity is broken
Eek, thanks. I've fixed it. I've never seen that particular link issue before -- what had happened was, I wrote the post in a word processing program (OpenOffice) and I guess I had a default set that changed regular quotation marks into "smart quotes". And for some reason, having the URL surrounded by these so-called "smart quotes" made it try and link circularly to my post while the URL I actually wanted to link was sort of tacked on afterward. Now that I've changed them back to regular quotation marks the link seems to be behaving properly. Weird.
Buying things on credit had always been the mode of the poor, Anne, up until the 1920s, when the first "pay on time" or installments plans were put forth in the US for consumer items. These plans were a marketing strategy by companies that were having a hard time squaring the circle between paying their employees low wages and having enough of a domestic market to buy their goods!
The other big source of consumer credit these days is, of course, mortgages. Like you are, most people in the early urban US were renters; until the 1940s most mortgages required at least a 50 percent down payment, which was more than average people had saved. The federal government encouraged mass consumer borrowing to buy homes in the wake of WWII as a way of encouraging suburban construction.
Increasingly these days, you need a good credit score to get a worthwhile job, as more and more companies run a credit check on all applicants. So getting laid off and going bankrupt as a result can make you unemployable. Talk about a Catch-22.
But for me, the biggest scandal is the essentially unaccountable nature of the US credit reporting agencies. These companies collect hearsay evidence, then repeat it to anyone willing to pay a fee. They can commit the most damaging libels and the injured party has no legal redress, except to have erroneous information corrected by a tortuous process long after the damage is done.
I love shopping at my local warehouse store - BJ's, but I hate that whenever I do they track all of my purchases by my id and/or credit card. I haven't gotten advertisements as a result, but I do resent the intrusion into my purchases.
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