A Rare Excursion Into Economics
A recent commenter asked:
Is it justifiable for people to be [paid for] work that doesn't actually produce anything? If Person A didn't actually contribute any more than Person B, but still worked longer, why do they deserve more?
What follows is my take on that question. I go into what I think "work" actually means, as well as some various confusions and observations regarding economy and government. And I also talk about technology a bit.
Work isn't really about objectively "producing" stuff -- after all, even work that results in the output of some tangible widget is mostly just a matter of rearranging stuff as opposed to creating something new out of thin air. As I see it, the essence of paid work is that a person is financially compensated for performing some activity that other people have decided to value.
There is no objective list sitting in Platonic space somewhere dictating which things and activities correspond with a person's "deserving" a particular salary. Culture, not "intrinsic worth", determines how much money a person is granted for doing or producing X (where X might be a product or service).
If that weren't the case, people wouldn't pay huge amounts of money for diamonds, gold necklaces, designer clothing, etc.
And look at the entertainment industry. Look at the arts. Does a person who writes a song or throws a baseball "produce" anything? Does an artist who sells a painting "deserve" to be paid?
Objectively, this question cannot be answered. But in the context of human culture, it is answered by the people who decide to (or decide not to) compensate others for their efforts in these areas.
The same is true for business endeavors that fall outside the realm of arts and entertainment. For the sake of argument, let's say Person A and Person B are software engineers working for the same company. How much each ends up getting paid will depend on what the company (and, by extension, the employees' manager) values most. When people work, there are many ways in which they might be perceived as "contributing".
For example, say Person B only works a half day (and isn't available "after hours" at all, by phone or otherwise), but does something perceived as being tremendously useful for the company while she is at work. In this case, the company may decide that Person B is effectively "contributing" as much to the company's bottom line as someone who works a full day, and pay them accordingly.
However, it is also quite possible that Person A will be perceived as adding more of what the company values than Person B merely by working longer hours -- e.g., by being present on site, even if Person A isn't always "doing something", Person A is still there and available to do things on demand. Some companies really value availability.
So, as you can see, when companies are deciding how to pay different people (particularly when the job in question involves "intangibles" like creativity, initiative, etc., as opposed to "production of X number of widgets per day"), they almost invariably take more than one single factor into account. And when you move your vantage point from looking at "what the company values in an employee" to looking at "what potential or actual customers value in their products and services", it is clear that people take more factors than mere efficiency of widget-production into consideration when seeking goods and services.
Now, before anyone gets excited, none of the above should be taken as an endorsement of "letting the market sort things out". While I find the whole laissez-faire thing very easy to understand, conceptually speaking, and while it's hard for me to imagine how a less capitalistic system (than what we presently have in the USA) would work, I simply don't think that market forces can be trusted to bring about the outcomes proponents think they should.
I'm not going to sit here and make sweeping generalizations about the personalities of economic libertarians, because I'm well aware different people come to their economic opinions along different paths (in my case, I started out as something like an economic libertarian simply because it was the easiest system to understand). But I do -- at least based on what I've observed as of this point in time -- think there are some rather curious assumptions made by some folks who would likely class themselves as "free marketeers". I'm probably going to get myself into trouble here in even attempting to write about this (and anyone can feel free to call me "ignorant" seeing as I am rather ignorant in this area), but goshdarnit, I'm going to make an attempt anyway.
Basically, what I see "government" as ideally has nothing to do with "authority", but rather to do with a system of jobs that people are hired to perform in the interest of taking care of all the annoying logistics that would otherwise bog most other individuals down. That is, you don't elect so-and-so to be Secretary of Transportation because you feel obligated to make someone The Boss Of You when it comes to transportation-related matters, but because you figure you don't want to spend all your time dealing with all the pain-in-the-butt details of making sure the airplanes you board are safe, the roads you drive on are in good repair, etc.
I'm well aware that things don't work "ideally", and that some people do take what should be a useful and practical job and behave as if it's some sort of position of great power, and that governments do act authoritatively in areas they shouldn't as a result of all the false trappings of power that have built up like layers of grime over time in the system.
I am also painfully aware of how irritating it can be to deal with bureaucracy and paperwork and budgetary categories that make zero sense -- as an engineer, I find it mind-boggling when I'm required to get a whole slew of signatures just for the sake of acquiring a small, relatively cheap bit of hardware. When I was an intern at NASA in junior college, I remember being flabbergasted that my boss had to buy a box of picture frames even though we badly needed new computer hardware, because of the "color" of the money available. I also personally find logistical stuff of any kind, as well as most "official forms" and articles of paperwork, to be so terribly confusing that my head starts to hurt when I even think of looking at that sort of thing.
But the thing is -- I don't think that inefficiency and "bloat" are inevitable consequences of the mere existence of government, nor do I think that free-market capitalism is the remedy for the headache-inducing, frustrating situation many of us technical types and scientists find ourselves in when we want to implement or try out an idea. (I actually have a working theory that a lot of the political yelling that goes on when engineers complain about paperwork probably ties back directly, at least in a fair number of cases, to actual cognitive difficulties pertaining to logistical tasks, but I'm not guessing this theory is likely to be very popular with folks who are accustomed to thinking of themselves as Very Generally Intelligent.)
I don't claim to know what the remedy actually is, but I figure with all the creative people in the world, we have to be able to do better than choosing between "a bunch of clueless guys control everything and make anyone who wants to do anything fill out loads of complicated paperwork, with the result being that someone who wants a resistor for their widget needs 80 signatures from 10 management committees before they can acquire it" or "everyone competes in a free market environment, with the result being a kind of neverending 'social Darwinism' in which anyone who isn't cut-throat enough gets stomped into the ground."
My impression is that everyone would be better off if our interdependence were acknowledged more thoroughly, and if we somehow managed to work it out such that government was a set of practical logistically-oriented job roles as opposed to a bloated, sprawling, and altogether disappointing mess of dubious authority and excess paperwork, but in order for either of those conditions to come about, people need to stop viewing government as some kind of evil "THEM". They, after all, are us -- in the sense that nobody is forcing us to sell out our principles for corporate perks, or elect dumb tyrants, or do any number of other things we seem to be pretty good at doing over and over again.
If enough people really and truly decide that government is useless, I'm sure we eventually won't have one, but at this point I'd be willing to tout the notion of reform far and above the notion of abolishing governmental bodies altogether. I don't like paternalism much, but I sure as heck don't think issues with mass transit and environmental monitoring and public works can be adequately addressed by individuals who are generally focused heavily on other things, or by corporations who are generally focused on making something and selling it. It's not a matter of thinking private individuals or even corporations are "evil" -- it's a matter of realizing that people and companies both have limited attentional bandwidth, and literally cannot properly deal with crucial large-scale logistics to the extent that such things must be dealt with.
In my estimation, a lot of what eventually manifests as what looks like callous disregard (and even disdain) for the poor or for the various and sundry concerned folks making noise about saving the whales and the ozone layer and what-have-you probably originates not in wicked intent but in the unavoidable fact of bandwidth limitations. So what we need are people who can devote their entire working bandwidth to these things, which is where I personally see the role of government. In order to assure that everyone with a stake in a given matter actually gets heard, we need people whose job it is to consistently remind companies and individuals that no, their interests are not the only ones on the planet, and that no, none of us can afford to be short-sighted or so preoccupied with "winning the game" (whatever our particular game might be) that we forget we live in a shared, precarious, and vulnerable space.
I am not, of course, suggesting that only people with the defined logistical/regulatory jobs have a responsibility to care about the diversity of interests and vulnerabilities in the world -- everyone can and should care about such things -- but it is perfectly acceptable in the kind of scenario I have in mind for people to seek and use expert assistance in actually executing the fact that they care.
I don't know what you'd call that particular "system", if it's even a system -- I don't think in a top-down fashion when it comes to this sort of thing, just because my brain doesn't work that way (i.e., I don't think this way to be a cool political rebel, it's just a function of my cognition). But it's at least an attempt to take into consideration the valid concerns of both those whose efforts are frustrated by actually meaningless bureaucracy, and those who end up suffering needlessly in poverty or extreme precarity as a result of other people's superstitions (e.g., the notion that "helping poor people makes them lazy", and the notion that accommodating disabled/atypical people constitutes not only "resource waste" but giving such people an "unfair advantage", and other similar lines of nonsense).
Getting back to the question, though, of what it means to have a job, what it means to be working, and what it means to be "earning" one's living in the first place -- I really and truly do not think that any "level" of technology (including, say, advanced molecular manufacturing) would by itself somehow change the "work culture".
I mean, come on -- most employed people (in the USA at least) frequently get paid to sit through hours upon hours of meetings, during which time we are definitely not engaging in widget-production. Are people who anticipate impressive advances in, say, nanotech really of the opinion that meetings (and, for that matter, TPS reports) are going to disappear? Honestly, now!
Mind you, I love daydreaming about the vast possibilities things like nanotechnology and molecular manufacturing could allow people to explore. That sort of thing, as far as I'm concerned, would quite literally be magic if it were to emerge from the laboratory -- myth made manifest, alchemy poured from story into life. Humans have a long and rich history of delving into the machinations of magic, even though said magic has mainly only been metaphor and chosen narrative used to weave life and phenomenon into coherence. It's certainly no wonder that some might believe that, as magic (from classical alchemy to various sci-fi tropes, such as the "universal translator") in the context of a story tends to wrap the surrounding reality around it, transforming life in very specific ways directly traceable to the particular flavor of featured magic, the emergence of nanotechnology might similarly change actual reality.
But this to me seems unlikely. If nanotech does emerge in any significant way within the next few decades, I do not see the mere existence of the technology as something capable of altering the way people think about work. Technology doesn't exist in a vaccuum -- the ways in which new devices are used are most certainly influenced by pre-existing culture even as they in turn may come to influence that culture. In light of this, it is important to consider that, far from being a forward escape from the status quo, new widgets can actually serve to solidify the status quo by making it easier for those in power to hold onto that power. (I'm reminded briefly here of the Goa'uld -- aliens from the science fiction series Stargate SG-1 -- who use the technology they acquire to "prove" that they are as gods and deserve to be treated as such by "lesser" peoples.)
How people choose what they value, much moreso than what "level" of technology ends up being developed, is therefore far more likely to influence the work environment of the future. We've certainly seen particular widgets (such as cellular phones, laptop computers, and wi-fi modules) change the work culture to some extent, however, I'd argue that people probably work more when they have these devices, as opposed to less, seeing as they are more reliably accessible to their employers more of the time.
Individual workers may find this fact either distressing or pleasing depending on how much they like their jobs, what their jobs consist of, how much flexibility they want or need, etc., so I'm not saying that the present state of affairs is categorically good or bad, but I am definitely saying that I'm confused when people suggest that technology alone will make it so people have to work less. People might work differently, to be sure, but I'm not so certain we'll work less!


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Two technologies in conjunction, artificial intelligence and molecular nanotechnology, could (in my opinion) destroy the work culture.
Not only would robots be able to do all the work for no wage, but also humans would have no need for a wage because they could create what they need from the abundance of energy and mass around us. In other words, not only would we have nothing to do but leisure, but we would have no way of being paid for doing anything anyway.
Or, maybe my brain has been warped by reading too much about the Technocracy Movement and literature like Marshall Brain's Robotic Nation.
1:29 AM
I've long suspected that people who have jobs dealing with things and ideas tend to do better emotionally than people engaged in service work. Now we have some empirical evidence:
Study: Food Servers, Personal Care Workers Suffer Higher Rates of Depression
WASHINGTON — People who tend to the elderly, change diapers and serve up food and drinks have the highest rates of depression among U.S. workers.
Overall, 7 percent of full-time workers battled depression in the past year, according to a government report available Saturday.
Women were more likely than men to have had a major bout of depression, and younger workers had higher rates of depression than their older colleagues.
Almost 11 percent of personal care workers — which includes child care and helping the elderly and severely disabled with their daily needs — reported depression lasting two weeks or longer.
During such episodes there is loss of interest and pleasure, and at least four other symptoms surface, including problems with sleep, eating, energy, concentration and self-image.
Workers who prepare and serve food — cooks, bartenders, waiters and waitresses — had the second highest rate of depression among full-time employees at 10.3 percent.
In a tie for third were health care workers and social workers at 9.6 percent.
The lowest rate of depression, 4.3 percent, occurred in the job category that covers engineers, architects and surveyors.
The move towards a service economy in the U.S. has a lot to disrecommend it because the jobs pay less than ones in real production; they enforce a hierarchical model of society (the words service and serf both come from the Latin word servus, meaning "slave"); and they consequently tend to make service workers feel bad about their lives.
I also don't find it coincidental that low income neighbhorhoods tend to have a lot of fast food businesses. Poor people like for other poor people to serve them food and drinks because it gives them a sense of importance and control they don't receive from their employers, landlords, cops, teachers, creditors and other authority figures who remind them of their low status.
8:01 AM
Joshua, you seem to be lacking in several pounds of clue with regard to why people work and why pay happens. Did you actually even read my post? If people WANT a system in which they are compensated for Doing Stuff, that's what they'll get. Regardless of how many robots are out there cleaning bathrooms or what-have-you. People will make up jobs for themselves, and the ones with good salesmanship skills will likely be able to convince plenty of other folks that the jobs they've made up are Really Really Important.
I'll say it again: Technology ALONE cannot change work culture radically, particularly when it comes to WHY people work and want to work. Culture changes can be facilitated by particular technologies, but they cannot be caused by them, and like I said in my post, technological development can also sometimes act to solidify the status quo even as it provides the functional capability for people to push beyond it.
9:19 AM
Mark Plus said: I've long suspected that people who have jobs dealing with things and ideas tend to do better emotionally than people engaged in service work.
Meh? I'm not exactly sure how this is relevant to my post, but I'd suspect that it probably depends on a person's personality more than anything else, not to mention the fact that service workers probably tend to lack the "safety nets" (such as health coverage for themselves) that "knowledge workers" often do.
Also, from what I've heard/read, the structures of service professions tend to enforce really bizarre and unhealthy hierarchies that seriously frustrate workers. I think the problems in that realm are bigger than just the nature of the work. I mean, if humans really had some kind of innate aversion to service-type tasks, why would people keep having children, or keeping pets?
It seems clear that despite personality variations (e.g., I personally don't want kids at all simply because I'm not interested in being a parent, and because the idea of going through pregnancy/labor scares the crap out of me, but I'd happily live with a cat if I lived somewhere that allowed furry pets), people generally do not mind engaging in care-related activities, and in fact seek them out voluntarily.
I suspect that the way "service industries" are handled, managed, and structured is the main contributor to worker unhappiness -- people might willingly enter a service profession in order to express their desire to care for and provide services to others, but unless they're incredibly thick-skinned and strong-willed and capable of speaking out when something unethical is going on, they're probably going to end up jaded pretty fast.
You also said: Poor people like for other poor people to serve them food and drinks because it gives them a sense of importance and control they don't receive from their employers, landlords, cops, teachers, creditors and other authority figures who remind them of their low status.
Um...having worked a bit in retail (my first job was cashier at an amusement park, my second was a cashier/barista at Peet's Coffee and Tea), I've observed that the "sense of importance" thing is present in many people regardless of their economic status. Many people who came into the coffee shop were clearly quite affluent, and the sense of entitlement expressed by such persons was pretty astounding at times (there was one lady who, upon being informed that we were closed for the evening, insisted, "Not by MY watch you're not!"). You're a hotel manager, if I recall, so I'd imagine you've probably seen the same thing or at least similar things.
I don't like trying to psychoanalyze people (much less entire demographics), but I am pretty sure that the whole status thing is quite relative. E.g., someone might be a fairly high-earning executive, and not poor by any means, but that same person may still have a boss and will therefore get a bit of a thrill out of barking orders at the person pouring his coffee. I've personally never understood the appeal of that kind of status game-playing, though, so to me it looks like a lot of random flailing around most of the time.
11:09 AM
http://amormundi.blogspot.com/2007/10/superlativity-as-proxy.html
"If new cheap robust sustainable materials modified at the nanoscale or new cheap robust sustainable products manufactured via nanoscale replication in whatever construal actually were to arrive on the scene, these would contribute to general welfare and prosperity only if that is the value that defines the societies in which these technodevelopmental outcomes made their appearance. Otherwise, they absolutely would not."
--Dale Carrico
1:48 PM
Nato: Yep, I think Dale has it exactly right there. My suspicion is that the people making the most noise about how "technology will transform society" simply find the non-technological aspects of how society is transformed boring.
I used to feel that way as well, and it was actually sort of grudgingly that I came to understand that no, we can't all just work on making better robots and expect people's real lives to get better. But now, from this side of the equation, it seems unignorable and obvious that what people value, much moreso than what shiny gadgets exist, determines the work and overall economic culture.
This doesn't mean it's bad to be a shiny gadget enthusiast -- it's just a matter of understanding what domains things actually apply to. Technology can do stuff, for sure, but it can't do anything in isolation of the culture that surrounds it, creates it, and applies it.
4:00 PM
I certainly agree with the statement "Culture changes can be facilitated by particular technologies".
My point, which I appear to have butchered severely, is that if robots can do all essential tasks, and if there are enough resources to supply everyone with ample resources, there is no longer any real barrier to what could be called a socialist economy, therefore facilitating that change (to the degree that it would be inevitable).
9:48 PM
Joshua: "Facilitation" just means "help". Nothing to do with inevitability there.
10:35 PM
the essence of paid work is that a person is financially compensated for performing some activity that other people have decided to value.
Yes, and it also means other people have decided that the activity belongs in the "paid work" category. Some kinds of work are considered valuable to society but do not necessarily result in paid compensation. Raising children is the most obvious example; parents in America are not paid to raise their children, although there are some other countries where parents get generous stipends from the government. It all depends on the cultural framework in which the particular activity occurs.
You should venture into discussions of economics and culture more often; this was an excellent post!
Joshua -- I agree with Anne that if robots produced everything, we might easily end up with a culture that had exactly the same sort of class divisions as today, based on the number of robots and the amount of land a person owned. The work culture isn't based entirely, or even predominantly, on the need for a wage. Even with today's limited technology, if people were willing to live more simply, they could meet their basic needs without being wage slaves to corporations, but we have been conditioned to think in terms of getting higher social status and more luxuries.
9:17 AM
I agree that more excursions into economics (if only privately) are recommended, but for a different reason: knowledge is power, and economics is absolutely fundamental to how the world works. In particular, if you have motives or interests which others do not understand, you may have no choice but to fund them out of your own pocket. To that end, it will have been useful to make economics an intellectual hobby, so that when you decide you need money (perhaps a lot of money) of your own, you'll have some idea of what to do.
3:58 AM
Why was my comment removed?
5:09 PM
peco, I removed your comment(s) because I'm not interested in being trolled, or in having some massive, obnoxious dialogue crop up here over the question of "government as corporation".
If you want to extol the virtues of corporatized government, please go do it somewhere else. And if you ask "Why?", I'm deleting that comment, too...I am just not interested in having my blog turn into a dumping ground for endless cycles of knee-jerk reaction.
8:44 PM
mitchell: said In particular, if you have motives or interests which others do not understand, you may have no choice but to fund them out of your own pocket.
I understand that, but...one of the things I'm sort of struggling with now is the concept of how one person's monetary-gain-oriented activities might end up affecting other people. It's quite possible to "legitimately" make money these days in ways that, while they don't break any laws, still end up exploiting people or compromising ethical principles. E.g., I wouldn't want to make money by investing in companies that might be treating their employees poorly, or trying to establish some kind of monopoly.
I realize that money itself is probably here to stay, and that in its ideal form, money ought to be a way for diverse people to "exchange" expressions of their individual skills and passions for curiosities and trinkets, but I'm not of a mind to see "the market" as a wellspring of funds I can just tap into on a whim. I want to know where the money is coming from, why it's coming, and who the process of my obtaining it is affecting. Of course I'm not always perfectly vigilant about this, as I don't (yet) always make it a point to buy only local produce, etc., but I do at least think about it and I am working on trying to be more conscious of how resources make their way from person to person and what happens during those exchanges.
10:25 PM
abfh said: Yes, and it also means other people have decided that the activity belongs in the "paid work" category. Some kinds of work are considered valuable to society but do not necessarily result in paid compensation. Raising children is the most obvious example; parents in America are not paid to raise their children, although there are some other countries where parents get generous stipends from the government. It all depends on the cultural framework in which the particular activity occurs.
I totally agree on the cultural framework thing, though it took me a long time to figure that out. I used to be a fairly gung-ho "everyone for him/herself" type, but that was back before I realized how things like privilege worked. I mean, it would have been impossible for me to have gotten the job I have now if I hadn't had access to affordable college (I attended California community college and then a public California State University), not to mention the fact that I grew up in the suburban middle-class (meaning I always had clothes to wear, access to books and computers, schools I could usually walk to without having to worry about being shot by gangsters, etc.). Yes, I've experienced some odd/discriminatory treatment on the basis of my gender and my neurology, but that doesn't mean I can't recognize where I did have privileges.
So while I definitely don't discount the efficacy of will and effort and drive and creativity in finding one's way in the world, I also think that a person first has to enjoy a certain level of social support before their efforts will actually pay off. I actually sometimes wonder if maybe bogus philosophies like "The Secret" end up gaining popularity because the people espousing such philosophies are already so privileged that they can almost literally wish what they want into being. :/
It bugs me sometimes when I'm trying to explain how privilege can affect people's circumstances, and people act like I'm suggesting that everyone is just a puppet and that nobody can ever really do anything to help themselves, etc. And that's not what I'm saying at all -- I'm saying that "success" (using the definition here of "success on one's own terms") is a function both of what a person enjoys by virtue of the supports lent by his or her culture, AND by virtue of his or her own efforts. And problems come in when people benefitting from supports don't realize (or admit) that they are so benefitting.
(That's where I think a lot of class discrimination, disability discrimination, and generalized bigotry against anyone not perceived as sufficiently valuable comes in. And no, I'm not saying that anyone who happens to be poor or disabled or atypical in some way is "just a victim" -- I just think it's important to point out injustices where they exist and not make excuses for them because they happen to be "natural", etc.)
11:11 PM
I do not see the mere existence of the technology as something capable of altering the way people think about work.
Obviously the technology won't change anything directly. People will almost certainly use it in a certain way (to make stuff for themselves), which would make factories obsolete. People might not think of work as physical labor/manufacturing anymore.
7:37 PM
peco said: People might not think of work as physical labor/manufacturing anymore.
This is already very much the case for a lot of people in the industrialized world -- and it has also been the case for quite a while that the wealthiest people of all tend to be quite detached from physical production. Managers, CEOs, career investors -- all these folks can end up quite rich without ever so much as setting foot in a factory. This is nothing new, and it's doubtful that molecular manufacturing, robot armies, etc., would have any real effect on the work culture that already operates very much in the realm of abstraction. That's part of the point I was trying to make in my post.
11:08 AM
To get anywhere with this question, you have to consider why people work at all. Primarily it's to survive, and once that's taken care of, it's to survive more comfortably. Most people will take the best paying job they can get, which depends on its perceived value to the people paying for it, but at the root of everything, only manufacturing creates wealth.
Let's say you and I live in holes in the ground. If I do your laundry and you cut my hair, we have a pure service economy. We both still sit on the ground and we're no better off, just a bit cleaner and neater. Now suppose I go cut wood and make a chair. My standard of living has improved - I don't sit on the ground any more. I've used some of my time to create wealth. You'd like to have a chair but I don't have time to make you one, because I need my time to get food. So you go and cut wood for me, and I make more chairs and trade
one to you for the wood. Now we both have a better standard of living - we don't sit on the ground any more. We both have wealth.
Because our chairs are tangible wealth, we can trade them to other people in return for whatever they can do for us. So now you fetch wood, I make chairs, and we trade them with the neighbors for food and getting our laundry done. Everyone involved improves their standard of living. But the only people really profiting from it are us, because we create the wealth through manufacturing. Eventually we get to a point where we pay other people to do the work, and we become a leisured class. (Now we can use our wealth to trade with artists.)
12:38 AM
My post was getting way long, so I split it.
The line between productive and service jobs gets blurred in a big society. I work in manufacturing, but I live in a desert city and I'm totally dependent on the services of people who truck food in every day. I make 100k and the person who cleans my office only makes 20k, because I'm kind of hard to replace but there are a lot of people willing to clean up after me for minimum wage. In the end, my company sells its widgets for the absolute maximum price the market will bear, which is limited because there's another company making similar widgets. And I can afford to eat because there's more than one trucker bringing food, and more than one place that sells it. Thus the economy regulates itself, sort of.
However, it's easy to lose sight of the fact that money is not wealth, just a convenient token of exchange. In the USA over the past 25 years or so, the economy has degenerated to the point that some people are getting rich not by making things, not by services even, but by trading money itself. Not only is that supremely unproductive, but it's supremely inflationary. Money, remember, is not wealth, it's just a convenient medium of exchange. By definition, the total value of money in the economy cannot exceed the total value of goods for trade. You can create as much money as you like but if there's nothing to trade for it, it's worthless.
But as the attention has moved into financial trading, it's destroyed the wealth-creating manufacturing industry. Now you have to watch your stock price like a hawk. If it falls a little, speculators will short it and make it fall more until at some point, 51% of your stock costs less than the value of your assets. At that point, the vultures swoop in and asset-strip the business. To defend against this, companies avoid having valuable assets and don't invest in plant and machinery; and they can't invest in anything that takes years to pay off. To make matters worse, executives take their pay in stock, not out of the wealth they create, so they put their main effort into getting that stock price up. Sell the plant and machinery, lay off the expensive staff, and contract all the manufacturing out to China. The stock soars and everyone's happy (except the laid off workers). It works as long as nobody notices the currency is not backed by enough tangible wealth and inflation turns it into worthless waste paper.
If the government has anything to do with it at all, it has (had?) a responsibility to regulate. For 25 years it repudiated that responsibility, and well, we should hardly be surprised at what happened. So here we are in 2008, perhaps a few months left before we all have to start worrying about surviving again. I've got a comfortable hole in the ground, and a knife. Anyone care to go cut me some wood?
12:41 AM
This is already very much the case for a lot of people in the industrialized world -- and it has also been the case for quite a while that the wealthiest people of all tend to be quite detached from physical production. Managers, CEOs, career investors -- all these folks can end up quite rich without ever so much as setting foot in a factory. This is nothing new, and it's doubtful that molecular manufacturing, robot armies, etc., would have any real effect on the work culture that already operates very much in the realm of abstraction. That's part of the point I was trying to make in my post.
Well, technology has already changed one part of work for most people (work was basically physical for everyone 10,000 years ago). There are many ways technology could change work again (factory workers become useless because of automation or molecular nanotechnology or both).
Has work culture changed at all in the U.S. in 50 years (after the U.S. was already industrialized)? The change has to be partially because of technology, since work culture didn't really change from 30,000 to 20,000 years ago.
12:03 PM
One last word on this topic:
Manufacturing employs 13,643,000 people in the USA, compared to the following service industries.
Government - 22,387,000
Wholesale & retail trade - 21,467,000
Education & health services - 18,699,000
Professional & business services - 18,036,000
Leisure & hospitality - 13,682,000
Financial services - 8,228,000
Construction - 7,338,000
Other services - 5,516,000
Transportation & warehousing - 4,532,000
Information sector - 3,010,000
9:49 PM
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