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Sunday, July 15, 2007

When Cooling is Heart-Warming

Via Newsweek, Jerry Adler offers a fascinating look at the ever-shifting line between life and death primarily through the story of one man who "died" and yet lived to tell the tale. The article, aptly titled Back From The Dead, follows 61-year-old Bill Bondar who experienced cardiac death while unloading his car on May 23, 2007. In cases of cardiac death, states the article:

Without CPR, their window for survival starts to close in about five minutes. Life or death is mostly a matter of luck; response time to a 911 call varies greatly by location, but can exceed 10 minutes in many parts of the country. In rough numbers, they have a 95 percent chance of dying.


In Bill Bondar's case, the odds were slanted in his favor for a number of reasons. His wife, who found him soon after he collapsed, had some residual knowledge of CPR training she'd taken a decade ago. She pushed on his chest to get a trickle of oxygenated blood to his brain and called 911, after which help arrived within a mere two minutes. Bondar's pulse was restored through use of a defibrillator, and though comatose and at serious risk, he was at least no longer clinically "dead".

The rest of Bondar's tale begins with a move into the intriguing realm of medical hypothermia. Per Mrs. Bondar's suggestion, he was taken to Penn University Hospital, one of about 225 United States hospitals equipped with hypothermia-inducing machines. There, he was injected with chilled saline and wrapped in a network of plastic cooling tubes that circulated chilled water about the outside of his body. Then, continues the article:

Bondar was kept at about 92 degrees for about a day, then allowed to gradually return to normal temperature. He remained stable, but unresponsive, over the next three days, while Monica stayed at his bedside. She finally went home Sunday evening, and was awakened Monday by a call from the hospital that she was sure meant bad news.

"Guess what?" said the voice on the other end. "Bill's awake."


Bondar made a full recovery and was sent home -- a happy ending for him, his wife, and the doctors who worked diligently to save him. One such doctor was Dr. Lance Becker, who directs Penn Hospital's Center for Recusitation Science. Becker, who noted that most documented exceptions to the "five minute survival rule" for cardiac death patients involved individuals who had been cooled to low temperatures (e.g., following a fall into an icy lake), has been investigating the potential clinical applications of this data toward very promising ends. In particular, the article discusses the potential roles of cell death, oxygen, and mitochondria in the processes of bodily death, physiological damage, and recusitation.

It is genuinely refreshing to see a mainstream article acknowledging things like the fact that "[c]ell death isn't an event; it's a process. And in principle, a process can be interrupted.", and that "[f]ive minutes without oxygen is indeed fatal to brain cells, but the actual dying may take hours, or even days." It is easy to see how archetypical imagery like the robed, scythe-bearing personification of death managed to proliferate before these scientific facts were understood; in the past, if someone had a heart attack and collapsed, the finality of the event seemed immediate, certain, and complete. Understanding that this is no longer the case -- that as knowledge of human physiology grows more extensive, we can better parse the process of death into stages -- is critical to the shift in consciousness that will ideally play out in the form of more support for effective longevity medicine and "stopgap" measures such as cryonic suspension.

Speaking of which, Back From The Dead also offers a surprisingly sympathetic look at cryonics as the natural extension of lifesaving medicine; the Alcor Foundation is mentioned and some of its methods and speculations about the future of suspension and reanimation are described:

The Alcor Foundation, in Scottsdale, Ariz., has signed up about 825 prospective patients, and has preserved 76 of them, including Ted Williams. These aren't all whole bodies; some people opt for just their heads, which, apart from being cheaper, freeze faster than an entire body, reducing the danger of frost damage to the cells. Of course, we are a long way from knowing how to reanimate a frozen body, let alone just a head. One possibility, according to Tanya Jones, chief operating officer of Alcor, is to take a cell from the head and clone a new body to attach it to. The other is to scan the entire three-dimensional molecular array of the brain into a computer which could hypothetically reconstitute the mind, either as a physical entity or a disembodied intelligence in cyberspace. This, obviously, is not for the impatient. The physicist Ralph Merkle, an Alcor board member, has used this idea to popularize a fourth definition of death: "information-theoretic" death, the point at which the brain has succumbed to the pull of entropy and the mind can no longer be reconstituted. Only then, he says, are you really and truly dead.


Though the article wanders off into some mild fluff near the end in its discussion of "near-death" out-of-body experiences, overall I have to say that this is by far one of the best recent mainstream treatments of the shifting, evolving definition of death that I've come across.

While cryonics is often joked about even in optimistic circles as being "a mildly expensive funeral" or "the second worst thing that can happen to you", I have long theorized that despite the notoriety it gained a while back due to previous media treatments of the subject, it might actually end up becoming one of the first novel death--defeating technologies to gain widespread approval. The fact that we can already cool the comatose and use this low-temperature state in lifesaving strategies bodes very well for the increasing acceptance of medical cryonics.

9 comments:

JEmerson said...

Thanks for the heads up. As you say, even aside from the subject matter, it's wonderful to see higher quality science reporting in the media. Let alone the rare move to view death as something other than a boolean value.

abfh said...

If it were possible to scan the contents of your dead brain into a computer, the resulting cyber-intelligence wouldn't actually be you. It would just be a replica that thought it was you.

Maybe an android with your personality and memories would be enough to keep your family members happy, but you would still be dead.

I wonder, though, if a person's actual consciousness could be migrated into a cybernetic brain by gradually replacing organic brain cells with artificial ones, and/or connecting external cybernetic modules to a functioning brain. I don't see any reason why not...

Roko said...

"If it were possible to scan the contents of your dead brain into a computer, the resulting cyber-intelligence wouldn't actually be you. It would just be a replica that thought it was you."

Haha! That's funny. Suppose I were to suggest that you (abfh) are merely an identical replica of yourself (made yesterday) which thinks it is you. How would you refute this?

abfh said...

Roko, many years ago I read a short story with that premise. I don't recall who wrote the story, but it had to do with aliens who were studying cloned humans in various controlled scenarios. The clones only survived for a day, and every night the aliens would create more clones with a variety of implanted memories for the next day's studies.

As for the possibility that I might be a replica... well, it's obvious that Earth's current level of technology is way too primitive for that, so aliens would have to be involved somehow.

AnneC said...

JEmerson: Yeah, I was fairly surprised by the article -- I also find it interesting (and telling) that when stories begin with an anecdote about an actual person whose life was saved, there tends to be less likelihood of the author making moralistic exhortations about how death is some great, wonderful thing that brings meaning to life (as you sometimes see in articles from outside the "life extension community" that mention longevity-oriented subjects).

This is actually something that sort of gives me hope -- it does seem that when it comes down to it, most people DO think that individual lives should be saved when possible; they just have trouble thinking about longevity in the abstract.

abfh/Roko: I have no idea what would happen if one's dead brain were "scanned" into a computer -- I don't even know what would happen if one's live brain were scanned into a computer.

It would probably depend on what exactly was being "scanned" -- that is, what information was actually transferred between substrates.

If we could determine how the brain produces a *specific* consciousness -- that is, how the meat-substrate of the brain, the energy it manipulates, and the connections and arrangements of neurons result in a person with self-perception, it might be possible to transfer this sense of personhood to a different substrate.

The reason I think this might be possible is in part due the thought experiment abfh referred briefly to: imagine replacing *one* of your neurons with an artificial neuron of some sort.

It's likely you would still be "you" and feel like yourself. You probably wouldn't function any differently either. Now imagine replacing ten neurons. Over time, these neurons (which were introduced into a brain with most of its "original hardware" intact) will become part of your overall neural network -- the "image of self" that the brain creates will incorporate the new neurons as it interacts with them. Now extend this to a gradual replacement of the entire brain.

The gradual nature of the replacement makes it possible for the self to experience continuity (as we all do while growing up and having parts of our bodies gradually replaced), and if consciousness is indeed an emergent phenomenon, then it seems plausible that it could manage to "jump" from one substrate to another if the new substrate is introduced in a manner that maintains the original pattern.

I am not saying this would *definitely* work, but rather, that thinking about replacement in the gradual sense at least sets the stage for the idea of substrate transfer.

The whole thing about having a "copy" of onesself really still confounds me, though. The most likely scenario I can come up with is the idea in which at the instance the copy is made, there is a brief flash of a sense of being in two places at once, but at that point, the two persons (the original and the copy) will start "individuating" due to even small variables such as spatial positioning and possibly stuff going on at the subatomic level.

I also strongly suspect that BOTH individuals would feel like THEY were the continuation of an unbroken thread of awareness; this is difficult to imagine, and we don't really have a human frame of reference for it, but it seems to be the most likely outcome considering both brains would have the exact same memories.

abfh said...

The gradual nature of the replacement makes it possible for the self to experience continuity (as we all do while growing up and having parts of our bodies gradually replaced), and if consciousness is indeed an emergent phenomenon, then it seems plausible that it could manage to "jump" from one substrate to another if the new substrate is introduced in a manner that maintains the original pattern.

Yes, that's what I had in mind, although you did a much better job of describing it than I did! As you point out, cells in the human body are replaced all the time, and we don't even notice the difference.

It wouldn't even be necessary to maintain the brain's original pattern, as long as any changes in the pattern were gradual enough to allow a sense of continuity.

The experience of having one's consciousness inhabit a different substrate might be similar to what is now happening with cybernetic vision systems for the blind. Researchers are implanting tiny electronic devices, which receive signals from low-resolution digital cameras, into the brains of blind people. The visual cortex then adjusts to perceive these signals, although they are not the same as the images transmitted by actual eyes.

Roko said...

AnneC Said: "I also strongly suspect that BOTH individuals would feel like THEY were the continuation of an unbroken thread of awareness"

Yes, this is the crucial point. It's very difficult to accept though. We have an intuitive sense of what's called forward-continuity of consciousness. I think that this is an illusion, and I've been reading about it in a book called "Reasons and Persons" by Derek Parfit.

There's a very interesting thought experiment which illustrates this point, let us call it the cloning transporter. It is a device to facilitate travel at the speed of light, and it works as follows. Your body is scanned at the atomic level, and that information is digitally encoded and sent to a distant receiver as radio waves. At the receiver station, an atomically identical copy of you is constructed out of raw atoms, and finally your original body at the transmitter station is destroyed.

The killer question is: does this transport method constitute murder?

If you think about it carefully, you realize that it does not, as long as the original is destroyed very soon after the copy is made.

Would you be a little hesitant about pushing the "transport" button when you stepped into the machine? Would you be wondering what you were about to experience - would you worry that you would die and never experience anything else, whilst "someone else", some impostor, appeared at your destination?

abfh said...

Yes, I suspect that I would die and never experience anything else. Even though the copy that appeared at the destination would feel that there had been no break in continuity, it wouldn't be "me" having those feelings.

I just read an interesting article on MSNBC.com about how the brain can adapt gradually to even the most extreme changes.

Les said...

Gentlemen / Ladies:

Hi. I just came across your story about Cryonic Suspension. FYI, I recently launched a new website on this subject at:

www.FREEZEYourself.com

FREEZE Yourself .com

...which you may find entertaining, enlightening and perhaps even a bit controversial.

I am a "card carrying member" of Alcor, the leading cryonic suspension service provider in the United States. I am also one of the most vocal proponents of "freezing yourself." I believe everyone should do it...at least until such time as the human lifespan has been indefinitely extended.

If you are ever interested in interviewing me, or if you get questions about cryonics, please feel free to contact me. I am a New York Times bestselling author (not on the subject of cryonics) and I have been a fan of cryonics since 1964. (I was 17. I'm 60 now.)

With any luck, and good eating and exercise habits, I expect to live to be 100 to 120. "Plan B" is to get frozen and thawed out. I really don't care if I know anyone in the year 2110, 2357 or 3208! I just think it's better to be alive than dead, period. Most people apparently disagree. Yet most people also want to live forever with God in Heaven. Hey, who knows? I may wind up there myself! But just in case, I'm freezing myself.

Me and Ted Williams, right?

Have a nice day, Les
Les Fox
Midland Park, NJ